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Give Heath Ledger an Oscar Because He Deserves It, Not Because He Passed Away!

Heath Ledger - Oscar

I was as saddened by the tragic loss of celebrated actor Heath Ledger as much as anybody. The man was truly a genius of his craft, only recently getting the chance to break through being pigeonholed as the teen Hollywood hunk with films like Brokeback Mountain and I’m Not There. Even in his lesser films though, the performances he would deliver always stood out as a pinnacle of the production, oftentimes making mediocre movies that much more enjoyable because of them.

But for fuck’s sake, please stop saying he should get an Oscar for his role in The Dark Knight when the movie isn’t even out yet. This has been a recurring discussion amongst people ever since his death, and now with little over a week left until the movie can actually be viewed by the people making these claims, it feels like it's become necessary to speak out against such ridiculous notions.

Now, I will agree that Ledger's performance in the film looks excellent based on what we’ve seen in the trailers, and if he really does do an amazing job as early word of mouth has indicated, nobody would like to see him be honored with an Academy Award more than me. That said, the year’s only halfway over, and there are plenty of other actors to be accounted for before it’s fair to proclaim Ledger as the most worthy candidate for the Best Supporting Actor category. Not that that's stopping moviegoers all across the web from claiming an Oscar is the only way to properly honor the man. Here's a thought: Wouldn’t it make so much more sense for him to be honored because he’s actually earned it, and not merely because he passed away?

For Heath to win the Oscar for something as entirely unrelated as his death would be to remove all meaning behind it. I may not have known Heath personally, but it’s clear through interviews with him that he had more respect for his craft than to want to win an award like that. Because of this, making him a lock for the Oscar isn’t honoring him at all. At best, it’s a meaningless sympathy vote, and at worst, it’s an insult. Even if moviegoers are willing to acknowledge this though, I still imagine many people would be upset were he to lose, regardless of how strong his competition is.

The only way to avoid this problem is by asking a question come year’s end: Were Heath still with us right now, would his performance as The Joker in The Dark Knight earn him an Academy Award? Being that I haven't seen the film yet, I cannot answer that question, but I will say that it definitely seems within the realm of possibility. As it stands though, the real question is much simpler... Will he win? In this case, the answer is practically a forgone conclusion, due in large part to how political the Oscar game has become (but that's another issue for another day).

Meanwhile, that nagging question will always linger: Will his win be attributed more to his performance being the best of the year, or his untimely death? Sadly, as morbid a query as that is, I think the answer may be even more so.

79 Comments

omg u r so riteq

omg u r so riteq

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ENGLISH, MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT?

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Say What Again!

Say What Again!

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say WHAT again once more time, I dare you, I fucking double dare you mother fucker. well.. yeah.. sure.. but you are right.. he should speak English.. I hate those people who are not only stupid but also middle eastern bastards...

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WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO

WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO E-THUG?

What makes you assume that

What makes you assume that he's middle eastern? In fact what does that have to do with the article?

Your racist crap has no

Your racist crap has no place in a public forum. Go back to your church.

Please don't assume he's a

Please don't assume he's a Christian just because he's racist. People seem to confuse old fashioned and Christian with racist and xenophobic too often for my taste. It's a real shame.

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tl;dr you're right, heath

tl;dr you're right, heath leder does deserve a oscar!

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Good point, "Bryan Booby". Way to contribute. Personally, I thought Jack Nicholson did a fantastic job as The Joker in the first Batman movie. But did that get him an Oscar? No, it didn't (though I think he was nominated). So I guess he should be as awesome as Jack to have a chance. Preferably, he should be BETTER than Jack, and all other movies this year should suck worse. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

The previous Batman films

The previous Batman films were novelties at best. The original with Keaton as Batman is almost an entirely different genre. Nicholson's Joker was comedic, Ledger's is reportedly sadistic. There's no comparison to the two versions of the film or the character; the latest incarnation of Batman has surpassed every other attempt at Batman ever on film which is an incredible feat seeing that the last series brutalized and murdered the franchise. This is the Batman Renaissance and the old style should be forgotten, and no comparisons made. That said, Ledger's performance shouldn't earn an award based upon a pity vote; instead it should be judged on its merits alone. And we're not going to understand the true nature of his portrayal until the release.

Actually, when you said

Actually, when you said "Now, I will agree that Ledger's performance in the film looks excellent based on what we’ve seen in the trailers, and if he really does do an amazing job as early word of mouth has indicated, nobody would like to see him be honored with an Academy Award more than me." All I have to say is _I_ would like to see him be honored with an Academy Award more than you would. Boo-yah.
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RE: Actually, when you said

Touché.

And all I have to say is, I

And all I have to say is, I would like to see him honored more than I'd like to see you honored (no offense, except on the grammar front).

Not deserving of an Oscar

I agree with PP that if anyone should have received an Oscar for his portrayal of the Joker, it should have been Jack Nicholas. If it hadn't been for Ledger's untimely passing, I don't think anyone would be giving his performance that much attention. Lots of movies have been made based on comic books, but I don't see the Academy showing them much love. So why now? Because Heath is gone and it was tragic? Nuh-uh.

Yeah, I agree, and I also

Yeah, I agree, and I also think that if anyone deserved to with the 1964 British Open, it was Jack Nicholson.

haha fucking hilarious dude,

haha fucking hilarious dude, i hope other people caught that.

wrong name

ummmmm.... Jack Nicklaus not Nicholas.

you clearly missed the joke

you clearly missed the joke there. you fail

You apparently missed the

You apparently missed the point of the article. You haven't seen the movie yet so who can pass judgment on whether or not Heath should get an Oscar or not. Most certainly not you. With all due respect, STFU.

df

Actually, Jack Nicholson's performanec as the Joker was terrible. He added nothing more to the act other than his pure self.

That's seconded. At the

That's seconded. At the time, it was the only performance to gauge other than on television; but in comparison to where the film has been taken, the previous films are horrible novelties. Nicholson's portrayal was cheeky, tragically funny, and slapstick. The new films are dark, and twisted. And I would assume Ledger's performance is on par with that theme. In a video store, the old films should be in the comedy section, or sold to the 12 people that found them to be watchable.

He should be given a reroll.

He should be given a reroll.

Newfound fan.

Well, I saw it already and it is true, his performance was unforgettable in "Dark Knight" and stuck in my mind. I'm no fan of Mr. Ledger at all by any means (mostly cause of the genre) until this movie came along. You'll see what I mean comes July 17th.

Almost quite good

"I will agree that Ledger's performance in the film looks excellent based on what we’ve seen in the trailers" Here you sound exactly like those you are criticizing. This is pathetic.
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RE: Almost quite good

When did I ever criticize people for saying his performance LOOKS excellent? If that's what you think this article was about, you weren't paying attention.

He deserves a nomination

Having seen the film last night, I can assure you that Ledger's performance is THAT good. He deserves Oscar consideration. Every time the Joker was off-screen I could not wait for his return. Ledger as the Joker will be regarded as THE Joker performance. Not only that, the film as a whole is THAT good and will certainly garner multiple nominations.

it wouldn't make sense to

it wouldn't make sense to give him the oscar just because he's dead but that's what will inevitably happen anyways so there really isn't any reason to argue. people were stuck on this one actor's death for weeks and almost totally ignored any real important news for the duration so there isn't anything saying he won't win just because he's dead.

Man. THANK YOU. This is

Man. THANK YOU. This is exactly what I've been thinking all along... and I was afraid I was alone.

i doubt he really gives a

i doubt he really gives a shit!

Wow

Hmmm, I agree. Awards should be EARNED and given to those who are still around to appreciate them! JT www.FireMe.To/udi

Shut up, Dufus.

Why would you say stupid shit like "please stop saying he should get an Oscar for his role in The Dark Knight when the movie isn’t even out yet." Those who are lobbying for an Oscar HAVE seen the movie. I was at an IMAX screening 8 days ago and press screenings were held the week before that. Pre-release screenings are attended by many voting members of the Academy who know what they're talking about. You're going to feel like such a giant ignorant douche after you see Dark Night. If anyone has EVER deserved an award for an acting performance, this is it. If anyone deserves a kick in the crank for being an assclown, you do.
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RE: Shut up, Dufus.

Hear that whooshing noise above your head? That's you completely missing the point.

Agreed

I doubt Ledger really cares if he wins an award or not. He's dead. Depending on your beliefs, he's either forever happy, forever damned, in the earth as worm chow, being reincarnated, etc. So, you know, an Academy Award probably isn't on his mind, or what remains, or his next life's mind. Whatever.

Yes, I've seen it... he does.

He steals the show and gives a performance that is mind blowing. Heath's Joker is an unforgiving villain the likes Hollywood hasn't seen since movies like Psycho, Clockwork Orange and Silence of the Lambs. IF he were still alive I would just be happy knowing I was in store for another go with the character. Sadly I don't think anyone will be able to fill those shoes.

Who?

I'm sorry but who exactly is saying he should win an oscar? You don't even provide an example. Sounds like you are inventing an opponent for the sake of argument.

Response

I have to agree with your initial statement, but disagree with the good majority of the rest your article. I have written a response at my own cheesy little blog with actual sources as to why this isn't some made up sympathy movement to get a dead man an Oscar.
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RE: Response

That was a good read, Sameer, although I did find some of your claims against me a bit unfounded.

While I still stand by the sentiments I expressed in the article, I do understand where you're coming from. As of now, there are plenty of people who HAVE seen the film, and find his performance mind-blowingly good. I've even talked to a number of these people.

However, those aren't the individuals this article is directed toward.

The reason I don't link to any specific sources (which, yes, I know is an instant way to fail any argument) is because I'm not discussing critics or blog writers. I'm talking about the general moviegoing public. I can't tell you how many times I've come across comments on movie sites where there's something relating to The Dark Knight, and the feedback can essentially be summarized as: "Man, it's so sad what happened to Heath Ledger. I hope the Academy honors him with an Oscar." That's not a direct quote, obviously, but I do distinctly remember reading the words "honor him" and "Oscar" over and over again. After enduring reading that for a number of months, I eventually grew tired of it, and decided to write this article. And apparently, based on the response so far, there are plenty of other people who have grown tired of it as well.

Prove it...

Come on, show us some real examples not just your imagined memories. Obviously you want to feel intellectually superior.
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RE: Prove it...

Whoops, you caught me.

Sorry about that.

I actually wrote some of paragraphs going for a witty, angry subtext, and went back and changed it to reflect more of civilized response. Apparently, I left a couple of the angrier sentences in there. It wasn't meant to be an attack of any kind, just a general disagreement as to the reason for the cloud of anticipation for an Oscar chance.

woh dude you take out the

woh dude you take out the time to reply to every comment on a 6-paragraph "article" that isnt grounded in anything but the meandering wondering of an overgrown child Whatever happens to heath ledger, oscar or not, i think you should get laid.

Absurd

Who has said he should deserve an Oscar simply because he is dead? The short answer: no one. The articles that assert he does deserve a NOMINATION all cite his performance in the film, not his death. The people making this point have actually viewed the film, unlike the author who can only weakly state "the movie isn’t even out". A fine example of someone from the gutter capitalizing on someone's death by being an opportunistic contrarian. The thing is, in this case, there is no conventional wisdom - only a brilliant performance championed by those who have seen it. Get lost captain obvious loser pining for web traffic.
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RE: Absurd

You managed to write an entire paragraph without stating a single accurate fact. Impressive.

Listen up Fools

Wow. Some of these comments make me want to throw up at how stupid human beings can be. Where do I begin? Though I cannot prove it to any of you, I have friends who know that months and months ago when I first found out Heath was cast as The Joker, I plainly stated, "He will win an Oscar for this role". Before his death. This has nothing to do with psychic ability. The reason is Heath is one of a handful of actors in Hollywood who are true chameleons. If you have seen him in Brokeback, you understand how completely he disappears into a character. Before his death, it was obvious to me that when you have a role as demented as The Joker, in a universe as fully realized and dark as Nolan's, paired with an actor of such transformative ability--you will undoubtedly achieve a masterpiece. While I enjoy Burton's Batman and thought Nicholson did a fine job, Ledger will make Nicholson seem as campy as Cesar Romero in the Batman TV series. I have seen the film, weeks before the general public, and I'm sad that people like you and the readers that agreed with you will be allowed to witness this magic. It is too good for you. It has been weeks since I've seen this picture and his performance has stuck with me ever since. I have tickets to see it twice more in IMAX on opening weekend. I cannot wait. This film will EASILY make it to #1 on any critic's list of the best Superhero films ever made. And Heath Ledger will easily be remembered for Stealing the Movie. If what takes place in common studio films is considered 'acting', then there should be a new word created for what Heath does in The Dark Knight. It should never be compared to the overwhelming majority of garbage that floods our televisions and theaters. Had he been alive today there would be just as high, if not higher odds that he will win the Oscar. The media attention may have come a little later if he were still around, but only because it's not quite as appealing to the media as it is to glorify Hollywood tragedy. However, the fact that you are hearing about it a lot is a symptom and not the cause of the early buzz. Anyone involved in initiating this early campaign has seen the film already, and was just as blown away as anyone with any appreciation for real quality will be. It's OK, you will understand and apologize when you see the film. I see your point that he shouldn't be 'Honored' for dying young. He happened to be a really humble gentleman, but that doesn't deserve an Oscar. You don't want his Life honored. But sorry friend, it happens to be a minor detail in evaluating whether or not he should be nominated. And I'm here to tell you that he will not only get nominated, but he will win and it will be for the right reasons. It's a shame that his death will forever taint his Oscar because of fools who just won't seem to get it.

this article is silly. you

this article is silly. you are assuming people are saying he should win an oscar based on the trailers and sympathy for his death. you are incorrect. the people that originally said he should win an oscar were people that saw early screenings of the film. so they know he should deserve the oscar or not

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